1 00:00:29,030 --> 00:00:30,030 Hello. 2 00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:31,430 Hi. 3 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:32,750 I'm Dr. Riggs. 4 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:34,910 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 5 00:00:35,710 --> 00:00:40,210 Before we get started, I'd just like to let you know we've got a couple of 6 00:00:40,210 --> 00:00:41,029 cameras here. 7 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:43,090 Today we'll be recording. Just for my... 8 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:46,730 records, personal records, so I can reflect later on our sessions. 9 00:00:46,990 --> 00:00:48,070 Is that okay with the bookies? 10 00:00:48,690 --> 00:00:49,609 Yeah. Yeah. 11 00:00:49,610 --> 00:00:54,150 Excellent. So, um, please tell me a little bit about what brings you in 12 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:55,150 today. 13 00:00:57,990 --> 00:01:01,930 Well, you know, my mom's making me come here. 14 00:01:02,570 --> 00:01:06,970 I honestly don't really know why I need to be here. My life is great. 15 00:01:07,490 --> 00:01:08,850 She just doesn't like it. 16 00:01:09,090 --> 00:01:11,070 She made me put this stupid trench coat on. 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:20,360 So what I think my stepdaughter is failing to share right now, her 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,020 life has really gone off the rails recently. 19 00:01:25,340 --> 00:01:31,920 She's living with these roommates who are involved in 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,680 all sorts of degenerate behaviors. 21 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:39,160 I've decided to play video games with Lana. 22 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:44,390 Our roommate that didn't pay rent for the last three months I convinced you 23 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:47,510 that it was a good idea to stay at home. They won't fire me. They need me. 24 00:01:47,810 --> 00:01:51,690 No, they don't. They can't hire anyone else. And you're literally not making 25 00:01:51,690 --> 00:01:54,730 any money without that job. So you think I'm just spending all your money? 26 00:01:54,990 --> 00:01:56,130 I think you both are. 27 00:01:56,370 --> 00:01:57,950 I don't think this is going to work out between us. 28 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:59,510 If you can give me, like, some advice. 29 00:02:00,010 --> 00:02:02,130 I think she just needs time. 30 00:02:02,470 --> 00:02:03,870 And you guys are really good together. 31 00:02:04,830 --> 00:02:05,830 Hi, baby. 32 00:02:06,070 --> 00:02:07,610 I'm sorry for being an asshole. 33 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:10,470 Talk to each other. We'll figure it out. 34 00:02:10,870 --> 00:02:12,810 Sarah is going to be at the party. 35 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:14,089 Who's Sarah? 36 00:02:14,090 --> 00:02:15,089 Your ex. 37 00:02:15,090 --> 00:02:16,210 We can't go anymore. 38 00:02:16,530 --> 00:02:20,210 I knew you thought she was prettier than me. I feel like you knew she was coming. 39 00:02:20,490 --> 00:02:24,630 Oh, you can't be having fun with this. I can't believe you would put me in this 40 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:27,610 position. It's good to include your friends sometimes in these 41 00:02:27,610 --> 00:02:30,250 conversations. I am not being dramatic. 42 00:02:30,810 --> 00:02:34,910 What if she wasn't even going? I would never fuck any other woman that is not 43 00:02:34,910 --> 00:02:36,750 you. I feel like this is really productive. 44 00:02:37,150 --> 00:02:40,440 You guys should write like a self-help book for couples. Come on, give her a 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,820 load so we can go to those parties. 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,160 We're so healthy. 47 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:50,540 And the reason why I asked you to put this trench coat on is because she now 48 00:02:50,540 --> 00:02:55,120 thinks that it's appropriate to walk around completely naked because she's 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,820 been influenced by her nudist, I guess that's what you're calling yourself, her 50 00:03:00,820 --> 00:03:01,820 nudist roommates. 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,780 That's the appropriate term. We're nudists. We respect our bodies. We love 52 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:07,780 the earth, you know? 53 00:03:09,070 --> 00:03:10,370 I don't see anything wrong with it. 54 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:15,730 Your daughter does seem to make a valid point. 55 00:03:17,010 --> 00:03:20,790 Is there any particular reason that you disagree with her lifestyle? 56 00:03:21,050 --> 00:03:27,890 I mean, she's a grown woman. She's just... A particular reason? I 57 00:03:27,890 --> 00:03:32,430 mean, I can think of a lot of reasons why it's not appropriate for young 58 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:34,190 people to just be walking around. 59 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:41,460 Fully exposed just naked all the time and doing example What 60 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:48,200 is wrong in your mind? It's just not Appropriate. I mean 61 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:55,080 nudity is supposed to be a very special thing. That's kept between two people 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,400 at most Think I see what's happening here 63 00:04:00,770 --> 00:04:06,530 How do you feel about your own body, for example? You're the woman's body. 64 00:04:07,510 --> 00:04:14,130 In general, are you... Yeah, my body is my body. There's not really much to say 65 00:04:14,130 --> 00:04:14,749 about it. 66 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:17,890 I just happen to know you cover up quite a bit. You have a long dress, that sort 67 00:04:17,890 --> 00:04:19,790 of thing. Are you shameful of your body? 68 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:22,310 No. Can I interject? 69 00:04:22,690 --> 00:04:26,090 Yes, please. She's incredibly shameful of her body. The whole time I've been 70 00:04:26,090 --> 00:04:29,450 growing up, my mom literally, there's no chance for... 71 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:33,820 Look at the coat she put me in. It's literally as long as her dress. She's 72 00:04:33,820 --> 00:04:35,840 like almost ashamed of being a woman. 73 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,300 It's insane. I just, I like my body, and I want to show it off, and I feel proud 74 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:44,800 of it, and she makes me feel bad for it. 75 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:48,940 You're absolutely, there's nothing wrong with wanting to show your body off. 76 00:04:48,980 --> 00:04:53,300 You're a young, beautiful woman, and you're free-spirited, obviously. 77 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:57,300 I think your mom's just maybe a little old-fashioned. 78 00:04:58,730 --> 00:05:00,010 Old fashioned? 79 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:07,270 A woman is meant to respect herself and part of that is not walking around with 80 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:11,470 everybody just able to see everything going, what is supposed to be going on 81 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:13,370 under your clothes. 82 00:05:14,050 --> 00:05:18,250 Clearly I can see that your relationship to your daughter is becoming fractured 83 00:05:18,250 --> 00:05:21,330 over this nudist. 84 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,980 Yeah, I mean, she knows how I feel about it. I have been very clear that she 85 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:32,920 continues to live her life in this very risky fashion that I'm going to have to 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,940 disown her and that's going to be it. 87 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,620 I cannot condone this type of behavior. 88 00:05:42,180 --> 00:05:48,920 You know, Annie, I think you might bond better with your 89 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,920 daughter. 90 00:05:50,990 --> 00:05:53,890 If you just start to understand more of her liberal mindset. 91 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:56,350 See? 92 00:05:56,690 --> 00:06:00,590 I don't really think it's about misunderstanding. I really think it's 93 00:06:00,590 --> 00:06:06,570 about getting my daughter back on track with living respectfully and being able 94 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:09,130 to be in society in a normal fashion. 95 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:11,570 I'm in my faction of society. 96 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:16,350 We like being around each other. We all like the same things and we have the 97 00:06:16,350 --> 00:06:18,810 same views of life in our bodies and... 98 00:06:19,290 --> 00:06:20,570 We're respectful about it. 99 00:06:21,490 --> 00:06:24,730 Yeah, but that's not respectful of everyone else that you're coming across 100 00:06:24,730 --> 00:06:29,610 who may not want to, you know, be seeing that much skin out and about. 101 00:06:30,410 --> 00:06:33,550 Well, let me ask you this question. What are you hoping to get from the session 102 00:06:33,550 --> 00:06:34,550 today? 103 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:37,650 What am I hoping to get from the session? 104 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:44,790 Yes. For my daughter to understand that she is on a 105 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:47,530 very risky path and... 106 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,600 needs to just understand that there's a right and wrong way to live your life, 107 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,080 and she is on the wrong path and walking a very, very thin line. 108 00:06:57,540 --> 00:07:01,840 What was your relationship with your daughter before all this nudist colony 109 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:02,840 thing came about? 110 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,480 Growing up, that sort of thing. Were you close? Yes, 111 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:12,440 we were so close. I met her when she was young, and we've always... 112 00:07:12,750 --> 00:07:17,030 shared everything and been close and have had no issues until she met this 113 00:07:17,030 --> 00:07:18,610 group of nudists. 114 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:24,670 I mean, it's very normal for a young girl her age to start venturing out, 115 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:27,650 meeting new people, making new friends of all sorts of different. 116 00:07:28,210 --> 00:07:30,410 Sure, but not those type of people. 117 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:32,350 All people to meet. 118 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:36,170 I only told her because we're so open and honest with each other and now I 119 00:07:36,170 --> 00:07:37,650 feel like I can't even tell her anything. 120 00:07:38,350 --> 00:07:40,550 See, that's what we don't want to happen, right, Amy? 121 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,860 You know, you want to be on the same level as your dog. You want to make sure 122 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:47,340 you understand what's going on. 123 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Yeah, I'd love for our close connection to come back, but not at the sacrifice 124 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,280 of my values and being seen as permitting that type of behavior. 125 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,980 I see. I see. 126 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,520 I'm going to suggest that we do a little exercise. 127 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:09,780 How's that sound? 128 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:18,450 Annie, I'm going to start... It's going to sound a little unorthodox, but I want 129 00:08:18,450 --> 00:08:21,610 you to bear with me, okay? Because I want you to know ahead of time that my 130 00:08:21,610 --> 00:08:24,930 success rate is 100%, okay? 131 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:28,470 And that being said, I'm going to need you to trust me, okay? 132 00:08:29,930 --> 00:08:30,930 Annie, 133 00:08:31,650 --> 00:08:32,929 I'm going to need you to disrobe. 134 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:36,789 What? Did you just tell my mom to get undressed? 135 00:08:38,530 --> 00:08:39,530 Yes. 136 00:08:40,450 --> 00:08:41,450 Um... 137 00:08:41,929 --> 00:08:45,610 Absolutely not. I'm sorry. Where are your qualifications? 138 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:49,030 Actually, I've noticed I don't see any... It's not the reception area. 139 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:55,470 I think this is our sign to go. I don't know what kind of quack doctor you are, 140 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:57,390 but... Please, please, please, please, please. 141 00:08:57,630 --> 00:08:58,630 Give me a moment. 142 00:09:00,090 --> 00:09:04,630 I guarantee you my results, they speak for themselves. 143 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:07,570 And like I said, I know it's unorthodox. I know it's... 144 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Not what you've probably seen with other therapists, perhaps, but that's why 145 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,080 you're here. 146 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:20,120 Well, here for reconnection, what are your success rates in exactly? 147 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,080 Oh, my success rates are 100%. It reconciled my families. 148 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,780 I've helped many, many families in the same exact situation that you're in. 149 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,200 Very similar. 150 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:36,100 You may feel like your problems are unique, but I assure you they are not. 151 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,120 I don't know how many daughters are running around in nudist communities. Do 152 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,500 you think you're the only parents of these nudist colonies that take issue 153 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:45,500 with this? 154 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,640 I mean, if you think of it that way. 155 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:51,260 I would say that probably every parent that is in this nudist colony probably 156 00:09:51,260 --> 00:09:52,540 has similar concerns. 157 00:09:52,780 --> 00:09:53,780 Don't you think, baby? 158 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:57,940 Well, maybe we should. Maybe a couple of random hippies or that sort of thing. 159 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:00,260 Other free-spirited thinkers. 160 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:02,220 But that's what we're trying to work on today. 161 00:10:02,540 --> 00:10:05,580 Maybe your daughter can teach you to be a little bit more open-minded and free 162 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:06,580 -spirited. 163 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,440 Just make a point there. 164 00:10:09,820 --> 00:10:15,220 No, please. If you just... I mean, it's your daughter. There's nothing that you 165 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:17,180 have that she doesn't. It's both women. 166 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:21,040 I think it would really, really help the situation. 167 00:10:21,420 --> 00:10:26,560 But, like, you were right here. You mentioned a camera filming us. Those are 168 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:30,200 just my own personal records to reflect on our sessions later on. 169 00:10:31,260 --> 00:10:32,700 No one will ever see those. 170 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:34,280 I assure you that. 171 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:38,300 And as far as myself, I'm a doctor. 172 00:10:38,980 --> 00:10:40,060 I'm totally professional. 173 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:43,840 I won't even pay it no mind. This is more about the exercise. 174 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:51,520 I don't know. I'm just very uncomfortable with this. 175 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,680 Well, I mean, that's why it's a therapist's office. This is a safe spot 176 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:02,100 for you. This is a place where you can feel comfortable. 177 00:11:02,740 --> 00:11:04,400 If you're saying this will help us. 178 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:12,010 I mean, um, it's fucking weird, but... You want to be close to 179 00:11:12,010 --> 00:11:13,010 your daughter again, right? 180 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:17,050 Yeah, I don't, I mean... Like, how close are we talking? 181 00:11:17,290 --> 00:11:19,610 Well, I mean, we're going to get back to the basics. 182 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:22,150 You know, we're going to get back to your motherly instincts. 183 00:11:23,290 --> 00:11:27,530 I mean, I can maybe loosen up a little bit. I don't know about disrobing, 184 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:30,750 but... We'll start at your comfort level. How about that? 185 00:11:31,110 --> 00:11:32,110 I really... 186 00:11:32,650 --> 00:11:37,050 I don't understand what this has to do with reconnecting with my daughter. 187 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:41,790 Well, obviously your daughter is very comfortable with her body and being 188 00:11:41,790 --> 00:11:42,790 nude. 189 00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:45,370 I'm comfortable with my body. 190 00:11:45,950 --> 00:11:51,290 I don't think I've ever seen my mom even take off a sweatshirt before. 191 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:54,850 Well, see, this is not appropriate. 192 00:11:56,570 --> 00:11:58,230 You're doing well. You're doing well. Keep going. 193 00:11:58,670 --> 00:11:59,670 Annie, please. 194 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:02,940 More than this? I mean, I did my top buttons. 195 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Well, yeah, you can. 196 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,000 You can do the same. 197 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,199 Come on. 198 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,200 I won't look. 199 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,560 I mean... Yeah, well, I don't... I mean, I don't need anyone looking. 200 00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:15,180 I'll tell you what. 201 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:21,560 I assure you, I'm not... I'll look at my notes so you can... Feel free to undo 202 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:24,380 the rest of your notes. I'm going to make a few notes here. 203 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:28,180 Okay. 204 00:12:30,209 --> 00:12:32,190 My buttons are undone. 205 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:38,190 Okay, if you could just take down your top, please. 206 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:46,330 I don't think that's necessary at all. Annie, if 207 00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:50,470 we're going to progress with this session, you're going to have to trust 208 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:51,470 me. 209 00:12:53,970 --> 00:12:56,810 I assure you. I mean, I... 210 00:12:57,740 --> 00:13:04,040 I can't remember a time when I was at this level of undress in front of anyone 211 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,240 but my husband, her father. 212 00:13:08,060 --> 00:13:10,120 Well, and that's part of the issue, isn't it? 213 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:14,760 It hasn't been an issue for me, ever. 214 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:16,420 Well, you're here, aren't you? 215 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:20,120 I've never seen anyone challenge my mom like this. 216 00:13:20,660 --> 00:13:24,700 I'm challenging you. I don't mean to challenge you. I'm just trying to get to 217 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:25,700 the root of the issue. 218 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,840 Well, the root of the issue is her running off with these nudists, so... 219 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,940 I'm already half undressed, so I can't be the issue right now. 220 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:34,340 I was going to say, again, 221 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,520 she raises another practical point. 222 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:43,240 I sense the reluctancy, and I understand to some degree, but, you know, if you're 223 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,700 not willing to trust me, I'm not too sure that I can help the two of you. 224 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:53,640 I just, I mean, where is this... If I can't help you, so Frank, I don't... 225 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,640 I don't imagine anyone else being able to help you either. 226 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,880 I just, I mean, where is this headed? You're asking me to take my top off 227 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,680 more. Well, where's the exercise headed? Well, it's meant to make the two of you 228 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:08,680 feel closer. 229 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,620 You'll take down the top. 230 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 We'll start there. 231 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,800 And then we'll do more from there. And small steps, small increments. 232 00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:23,300 I mean, honey, is this going to make you feel closer to me if I take my top off 233 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:24,079 right now? 234 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,240 I honestly couldn't tell you yes or no, because we've never... 235 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,140 You told me that he was, like, the best recommended therapist. 236 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:38,640 I mean, like... Well, I can't trust everything you see on the internet, I 237 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,640 guess. 238 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:43,240 I do want to feel closer to you, though. 239 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,680 I want to feel closer to you again. 240 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:46,380 Oh, there we go. That's the spirit. 241 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,480 Um... Don't need to clutch your pearls any longer, Annie. 242 00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:53,860 Um... 243 00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:58,880 Oh, this is really, really uncomfortable. 244 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,120 Let's just try to get out of this. 245 00:15:11,580 --> 00:15:13,340 Okay, alright, 246 00:15:14,220 --> 00:15:16,580 well... Rose, I notice you look a little uncomfortable. 247 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,680 Well, yeah, you made my mom take her shirt off. 248 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,620 Any of the point of this exercise is to make you feel... 249 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:24,820 Comfortable, man. 250 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:27,580 Hopefully, maybe you feel the freedom that your daughter enjoys. 251 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,860 See? I don't know if my daughter and I experience freedom in the same way. 252 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Well, you don't know because you haven't tried any. 253 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,680 I am... Your daughter... I like it. 254 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:43,460 Yeah, exactly. Your daughter seems very comfortable. She's been doing it for a 255 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:44,780 little bit now. 256 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:51,220 Yeah, I... You know, I'm sitting here with my top down, so I think that's 257 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:52,720 enough freedom for me. 258 00:15:53,450 --> 00:15:56,910 Rose, if you wouldn't mind, so that way your mother might feel more comfortable, 259 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:59,110 if you wouldn't mind the jacket. 260 00:16:01,970 --> 00:16:04,250 Now you're asking my daughter to get undressed? 261 00:16:04,770 --> 00:16:07,730 When we had a whole fight on the way in here just to get her to put this on. 262 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:10,110 Well, yes. 263 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:15,790 There's a key word being fight. You had a fight with your daughter. 264 00:16:16,030 --> 00:16:17,230 Oh, dear. 265 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,080 The reason being is the two of you are going to hold each other. You're going 266 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,080 to embrace each other. 267 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,780 In a simple hug. 268 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:30,520 In like nudist fashion? 269 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:32,100 Yes. 270 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:38,780 It's not like a weird sexual way, but like in a bonding, in a very natural 271 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:40,960 loving mother-daughter bonding way. 272 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,260 I think that's part of the problem. 273 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:45,980 You're an adult. 274 00:16:46,140 --> 00:16:47,500 I'm... Exactly. 275 00:16:54,540 --> 00:16:59,640 Go ahead, Rose. You can do it. Can you take your notes or whatever? 276 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,200 I'm more used to doing this in my community. 277 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:10,700 I don't want to make you feel like any less of a woman, so I'm doing this for 278 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:11,700 you. 279 00:17:12,619 --> 00:17:15,200 It's very thoughtful, sweetie. 280 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:18,579 It's very thoughtful, Rose. 281 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Well done. 282 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,420 I like the positive candidate attitude. 283 00:17:36,340 --> 00:17:41,020 Okay. Now, Rosa, if you wouldn't mind just holding your bum. 284 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:42,340 Just give her a hug. 285 00:17:43,060 --> 00:17:44,200 Can I hug you? 286 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,300 You can hug me then. 287 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:54,100 There you go, Annie. No reason to look so uncomfortable. 288 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,360 Totally natural, totally normal. 289 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,040 This is mother-daughter bonding at its finest right here. 290 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:04,000 It is nice to have a hug from you, sweetie, but... 291 00:18:04,460 --> 00:18:05,560 It's been a long time. 292 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,760 Yeah. 293 00:18:07,180 --> 00:18:08,180 Yeah. 294 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:13,200 Wonderful. You two are doing great. Really, really wonderful. Making 295 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,600 tremendous progress today. 296 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,640 Yep. Okay. All right. 297 00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:20,020 Yeah. 298 00:18:21,780 --> 00:18:23,400 How long are we doing this for? 299 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Oh, just a little bit longer. 300 00:18:25,820 --> 00:18:27,040 Oh. Yeah. 301 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,240 Okay. 302 00:18:29,340 --> 00:18:32,580 Until you two stop feeling so awkward, I guess. 303 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:36,290 I don't know if we have enough time for that today. 304 00:18:37,370 --> 00:18:41,110 Oh, I'm sure you will be totally comfortable with each other very 305 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:42,110 shortly. 306 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:46,450 Because, Rose, I would like you to, at this point, fondle your mother's 307 00:18:46,450 --> 00:18:47,730 breasts. Huh? 308 00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:49,630 Fondle your mother's breasts. 309 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:51,730 Fondle? 310 00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:53,310 Correct, yeah. Okay. 311 00:18:54,550 --> 00:18:57,190 Again, I know where you're going with this. 312 00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:01,250 I know my techniques are unorthodox. I've stated that. 313 00:19:02,050 --> 00:19:04,190 You do keep using that word. Yeah. 314 00:19:04,670 --> 00:19:09,450 That's what other therapists do. And that is why my success rate is 100%. So, 315 00:19:09,490 --> 00:19:10,690 Rose, go ahead. 316 00:19:11,050 --> 00:19:15,310 Tell me about how liberated you feel. I mean, I'm not even certain that Rose 317 00:19:15,310 --> 00:19:21,450 would know how to fondle a breast. Whoa. Well, there's two problems. I thought 318 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:22,450 you might say that, Annie. 319 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:26,750 So, I'm just going to come right over here. Oh, my God. I'm going to give you 320 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:27,750 a little hand here. 321 00:19:28,090 --> 00:19:29,090 Professional. 322 00:19:30,179 --> 00:19:35,240 hands-on technique that I like to use myself if it's okay, if you don't mind. 323 00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:41,020 If you start, caressing? Mm-hmm. 324 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,180 That's not so bad, right, Annie? Uh-huh. I mean, what do you think your father's 325 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:46,220 going to say about this? 326 00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:50,920 Like, I'm sitting here topless in this man's office and now you're touching me, 327 00:19:51,020 --> 00:19:52,100 fondling me. 328 00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:56,020 Annie, this is doctor-patient confidentiality. 329 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,560 You see? 330 00:19:57,830 --> 00:20:00,870 What happens in this room is just between the three of us. This is about 331 00:20:00,870 --> 00:20:06,630 you two building back that mother-daughter relationship and that 332 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:07,589 bond, you see? 333 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:10,310 Yeah, I mean, I thought it was going to be about us two. I didn't know it was 334 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:12,970 going to be so hands-on with you. 335 00:20:14,090 --> 00:20:18,590 Well, it's no extra charge, I assure you, and it's all taken care of by your 336 00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:19,449 insurance provider. 337 00:20:19,450 --> 00:20:20,750 Oh, how wonderful. 338 00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:23,610 So there's no need to worry about that if that's what your concern was. 339 00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:25,950 So where was I? 340 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:27,389 Now where was I? 341 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:33,190 if you if you start just gently massaging just like this just a little 342 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:38,930 small circular motion go ahead don't be scared come on come on don't be scared 343 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:45,470 man you're looking right at me as you're doing that well i mean i'm waiting for 344 00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:50,290 you to join in oh my god i cannot believe this is actually i can't touch 345 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:51,290 my mom like this 346 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:04,860 They're beautiful. Look at that. Look at you. That is a beautiful, large-breasted 347 00:21:04,860 --> 00:21:09,540 woman. Oh, my God. I still don't understand why we are touching or 348 00:21:09,540 --> 00:21:11,540 talking about my breasts right now. 349 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:12,940 Yeah. 350 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,020 I'm going to go just a little bit. 351 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:22,380 Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. 352 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,940 It's really going to go further than this? Well, yeah. This is a rose's 353 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:27,940 benefit, you see. 354 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:30,340 It's just going to be Rose right here. Come on, I'm going to take that right 355 00:21:30,340 --> 00:21:32,300 down. I want you to crush him with this. 356 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:35,700 Come on, come on, come on. 357 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:36,980 Don't be bashful. 358 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Oh my God. 359 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,040 Look at that. Wonderful, right? 360 00:21:42,260 --> 00:21:43,340 Mm-hmm. Yeah, wonderful. 361 00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:50,980 I don't really know if this is what Rose was interested in when she got involved 362 00:21:50,980 --> 00:21:54,780 in, you know, her nudist community. I don't think she wanted to be touching. 363 00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:59,000 Her mother's breast in a therapist's office. 364 00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:02,880 Well, she's going to need to get used to it. And if we're going to make any 365 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,880 progress, right? 366 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:06,900 Because what we're going to do right now is we're going to need to lean forward. 367 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:08,700 We've got that one. And there you go. 368 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,980 And then I want you to... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Okay, you're going to open 369 00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:15,840 it up. No, I can't. No, no, no. Just come on. Come on. 370 00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:19,860 This is really... Come on. Just give it a little suck. 371 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,900 Pushing it. Come on. This is totally normal. This is what... 372 00:22:24,650 --> 00:22:25,650 Yes, there you go. 373 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:27,830 What school did you go to again? 374 00:22:28,270 --> 00:22:30,230 Where did you learn these techniques? 375 00:22:33,290 --> 00:22:35,190 Are you questioning my full qualifications? 376 00:22:35,690 --> 00:22:40,270 Yeah, well, my daughter's mouth is on my... I'm sure you went to an Ivy 377 00:22:40,270 --> 00:22:46,870 College, okay? And I guarantee you results, okay? And 378 00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:52,790 again, if you're unhappy at the end of today's session, no charge. 379 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:58,710 But I really believe that if you two just cooperate, and you just go through 380 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:01,930 the exercises with me, I think at the end of our 45 minutes, I think you'll 381 00:23:01,930 --> 00:23:03,230 both be very, very pleased. 382 00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:06,550 I think you'll feel much, much differently. I think you'll be a lot 383 00:23:06,550 --> 00:23:10,810 closer. Okay, go ahead. We are being pretty cooperative, all things 384 00:23:10,810 --> 00:23:12,270 considered. Go ahead. 385 00:23:13,330 --> 00:23:20,030 I mean, you do understand this is, you 386 00:23:20,030 --> 00:23:22,900 know... We never had a breastfeeding experience. 387 00:23:23,420 --> 00:23:25,840 Well, I mean, no better time than the present then, right? 388 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,740 That makes you both about ready then. 389 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,480 There you go. 390 00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:31,940 Oh, my God. 391 00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:33,340 There you go. 392 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:35,520 There you go. 393 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:37,020 Oh. 394 00:23:38,820 --> 00:23:41,700 Come on, it's okay. Go ahead, Rose. 395 00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:43,060 Go ahead. 396 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:46,420 There you go. You're doing great. 397 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,340 All right. Okay. 398 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,420 It doesn't feel like I'm doing a great job. 399 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,680 I mean, if he says you are, sweetie, I'm sure you're doing great. 400 00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:07,900 Yeah, so you just... This is just the first step, don't worry, ladies. 401 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,280 It'll be a lot easier. 402 00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:15,500 Oh. Speaking of which, I might have you step up just one second and remove the 403 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,500 dress. 404 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,060 Rose isn't completely nude. She just doesn't seem right. 405 00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:24,340 But she wants to keep her dress on. Yeah, thank you. Well, you know... 406 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,200 Just because I want to be a nudist. 407 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:33,580 Rose, again, we're trying to teach your mom the joys and the freedoms of being 408 00:24:33,580 --> 00:24:36,820 liberated like herself, right? Is that what we're trying to accomplish here? So 409 00:24:36,820 --> 00:24:39,360 that she has a better understanding of your lifestyle and your choices? 410 00:24:40,820 --> 00:24:47,640 Yes. I mean, I thought that was the purpose of our interview today. Unless 411 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,800 I misunderstood. 412 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 I can't just, like... 413 00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:59,350 pull my skirt up a little bit. Sure, if you'd like. And if you'd like, that's 414 00:24:59,350 --> 00:25:02,090 fine too. You can just pull it up if you'd like. Whatever's easiest for you. 415 00:25:02,270 --> 00:25:06,370 And it doesn't really... We're just trying to share more with each other, 416 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:06,849 you see? 417 00:25:06,850 --> 00:25:07,850 Okay, yeah. 418 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:10,150 There you go. 419 00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:11,610 Okay. 420 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:13,890 I mean, okay. 421 00:25:15,150 --> 00:25:19,790 I didn't see my knees before. 422 00:25:22,510 --> 00:25:26,610 All right. Now Rose, we can continue where you were. 423 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:31,050 I'm just going to observe and make sure your technique, your form is good. 424 00:25:32,650 --> 00:25:37,050 Are you sure? 425 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:38,870 I'm positive. 426 00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:41,830 I've never been more sure of anything in my life, Rose. 427 00:25:42,050 --> 00:25:43,050 I'm so sorry, Mom. 428 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:44,249 Don't be sorry. 429 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:45,250 Don't be sorry. 430 00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:51,530 You're helping your mom. You're helping her liberate herself. 431 00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:53,520 All right, perfect. 432 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,500 I'm going to help you with this real quick. 433 00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:01,560 I'm just going to have you lift off a little bit. Oh my God, this is... There 434 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,820 we go. Is it necessary? 435 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,320 You know what? I think it's absolutely... Oh my God, my underwear. 436 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,400 Okay. There you go. There you go. Now we're all comfortable. 437 00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:13,100 There you go. 438 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:14,460 There you go, Annie. 439 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,420 That's my underwear that you grabbed with my... I'll put it right here with 440 00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:21,940 your... Who's there? There you go. Very good. 441 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:23,180 Oh, 442 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:25,480 young and dumb. Down there. 443 00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:26,820 Yeah, wow. 444 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:35,440 Okay, well, this is great. So I guess we've accomplished the goal and now 445 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,500 that's it. We are well on our way. And that is the positive can-do mentality 446 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,440 that Rose was showing earlier. 447 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:47,000 And I appreciate that you're starting to feel it now too. So, Rose, I'm going to 448 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000 go back to the... 449 00:26:48,430 --> 00:26:52,830 the suckling on the on the breast oh my god annie i want you to just close your 450 00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:59,790 eyes okay take some long deep breaths go ahead let's go watch make sure you're 451 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:06,750 doing it correctly all right very good and 452 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:12,570 even put our hands to the side just for a second oh my god 453 00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:21,570 Just keep your eyes closed, Annie. It's going to be okay. 454 00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:22,810 They're closed. 455 00:27:24,130 --> 00:27:25,130 Oh, 456 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:28,190 my God. 457 00:27:29,270 --> 00:27:30,270 Okay. 458 00:27:33,010 --> 00:27:34,010 Oh, my. 459 00:27:34,990 --> 00:27:38,330 I'm not sure what's happening here. 460 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:42,030 I'm just going to get you a little comfortable. Don't mind that. There we 461 00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:43,650 go. Rose, you just continue. 462 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:47,070 Oh, my God. 463 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,220 I should have closed my eyes. It was better if my eyes were closed. 464 00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:02,480 Oh my God. 465 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:05,260 Oh. 466 00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:09,060 Are you okay, sweetie? 467 00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:10,300 You okay, Rose? 468 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:12,320 I'm trying to keep my eyes closed too. Okay. 469 00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:17,420 I'm okay. Oh my God. 470 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,200 Is this absolutely necessary? 471 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:22,220 Yes, this is absolutely necessary. 472 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:29,280 Is this what you're doing with your... No, this is the craziest thing that... 473 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,320 Oh, 474 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:35,640 this is escalating quickly. 475 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Yes. 476 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,220 Nothing... Just close your eyes and let it happen, okay? 477 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:47,390 My life in the nudist community is way simpler than this. Oh, wow. 478 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:52,150 Maybe when you go back to your community, you can show them some of 479 00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:52,889 these techniques. 480 00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:53,890 Oh, my God. 481 00:28:58,330 --> 00:29:02,390 It would really be hard to do techniques that I saw on my mother. 482 00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:03,790 Oh, my God. 483 00:29:04,830 --> 00:29:05,830 She has a point. 484 00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:32,880 Oh, fuck, I'm sorry, Mom. 485 00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:34,100 I'm sorry. 486 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,180 I can't believe I dragged you here. 487 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,340 Oh, no need to apologize for anything. Don't worry. 488 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,160 I'm going to get her the therapy she needs. 489 00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:07,170 You're doing a wonderful job so far. 490 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:13,010 I'm going to have you scooch around over just a little bit. I'll sit right here. 491 00:30:13,810 --> 00:30:14,810 All right. 492 00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:16,250 Now, ladies. 493 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:18,990 What are you doing? 494 00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:20,790 For your next mother-daughter activity. 495 00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:22,090 What? Ladies. 496 00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:27,670 Ladies, we cannot stop now, okay? We've gotten this far. It would be detrimental 497 00:30:27,670 --> 00:30:28,730 to this therapy, okay? 498 00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:30,310 I mean, you already... 499 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,000 We're both sitting here naked and now... Yes, well, this is the whole point. 500 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:38,300 You're going to learn mutual support of one another. 501 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,960 So your next task, ladies... Come here. 502 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,540 Rose, don't be scared. 503 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,740 I want you to show your mother how to do it. 504 00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:53,660 Rose? 505 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,320 What do you say? 506 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 I mean, so far this therapy's going pretty good, right? 507 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:01,420 Ladies, you have to admit. 508 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,420 I mean, did you ever think you'd be this close to your daughter? I mean, you're 509 00:31:05,420 --> 00:31:06,600 both sitting here naked. 510 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,020 I mean, close is a word for it. 511 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520 Yes. Sweetie, have you done this before? 512 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,540 Are you going to make me go to therapy if I tell you, honestly? 513 00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:20,000 I mean, we're here already, so you might as well be honest. 514 00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:21,900 I've never done it like this before. 515 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:26,980 Well, I've never done this at all, so... Ever? 516 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,840 I... What? Would you need a... A mouth? 517 00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:32,940 That's not what this is for. 518 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,000 Well Rose, I think maybe in this particular situation, maybe you should 519 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,960 start off and show your mom what it's all about then. I've seen where you have 520 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,960 a little experience. 521 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:51,980 If we stop now, we're not... It would be detrimental, I really feel it. I 522 00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:53,840 feel like it would be a big mistake. 523 00:31:57,290 --> 00:32:02,410 But the good news is we've gotten this far and I think if we continue You go 524 00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:05,670 through with this. I think it's gonna make a major difference because we have 525 00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:11,090 major breakthrough today It might just cure all your issues 526 00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:16,350 Be nice to have all our issues cured Well, 527 00:32:16,350 --> 00:32:19,090 what do you think? 528 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:21,650 It's up to you sweetie Rose? 529 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:25,490 Okay. Okay. We need to be brave. Go ahead 530 00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:29,010 You start, you start. 531 00:32:36,530 --> 00:32:39,170 There you go, watch your daughter. 532 00:32:42,150 --> 00:32:43,150 That's it. 533 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:00,540 You want me to keep going? Yes, yes, please continue. 534 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,680 There you go. 535 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,400 Do 536 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:21,920 you 537 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,140 want me to try and feel bad that you're doing all that yourself? 538 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,320 I think I need your elbow. 539 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,760 Like 540 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:40,220 that? 541 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Just like that. It's perfect. 542 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:46,320 There you go. Nice and slow, ladies. 543 00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:55,620 You're doing it. 544 00:33:56,629 --> 00:33:57,629 Yes, she is. 545 00:34:00,410 --> 00:34:03,430 I can't say I really understand it, but okay. 546 00:34:07,670 --> 00:34:09,389 Oh, you must do wonderful, ladies. 547 00:34:12,370 --> 00:34:14,050 You're really making strides right now. 548 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,760 You're doing a good job. 549 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:40,699 Thanks, sweetie. 550 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,239 Oh, that's so nice. 551 00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:48,320 Oh, that's good, Rose. Give your mother that encouragement that she needs. 552 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,100 I'm great. 553 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Okay. 554 00:35:06,490 --> 00:35:10,050 There you go. I want you to breathe. There you go. Now, Rose, you get my 555 00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:12,630 towel. There you go. Get my towel. 556 00:35:13,950 --> 00:35:14,950 That's it, ladies. 557 00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:17,970 There you go. 558 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:20,510 That's it. 559 00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:23,970 There you go, Rose. 560 00:35:24,270 --> 00:35:25,490 Don't forget the balls, Rose. 561 00:35:26,050 --> 00:35:27,050 There you go. 562 00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:29,670 There you go. 563 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:45,490 All right, I'm gonna share your daughter. 564 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:51,490 Here you go. How much longer do we have to do this? Oh, we got about another 20 565 00:35:51,490 --> 00:35:53,170 minutes or so of our session, so. 566 00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:56,210 Yeah, don't worry. 20 minutes? 567 00:35:56,530 --> 00:35:59,050 If we go over, no extra charge, ladies, don't worry. 568 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:01,310 Don't have to worry about that. 569 00:36:03,590 --> 00:36:04,590 That's it. 570 00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:09,690 Take a nice... You're doing great, sweetie. 571 00:36:31,770 --> 00:36:32,770 That's it, Mom. 572 00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:34,830 Oh, that's it. Oh, my gosh. 573 00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:37,209 That's it. 574 00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:38,210 Mm? 575 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:42,990 Yeah. 576 00:36:45,110 --> 00:36:46,110 Oh. 577 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:48,330 Oh. 578 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:50,670 Oh. 579 00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:58,510 I mean, this is better than being all... 580 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:00,250 Pulled up in your dress all day. 581 00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:04,530 I'm not so sure I'm convinced of that. 582 00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:05,870 Oh, well. 583 00:37:06,810 --> 00:37:09,430 You think Rose, maybe we should convince your mother a little bit more? 584 00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:11,290 Yeah, okay. 585 00:37:11,610 --> 00:37:14,310 I want you to sit back and get comfortable. 586 00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:16,610 Why don't you sit right there? 587 00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:19,910 Take a seat. Lay back. 588 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:24,530 I want you to, uh... 589 00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:30,510 What are you doing? 590 00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:32,290 Yeah, what now? 591 00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:38,390 Oh, this is a... Can you come forward a little bit? Get nice and comfortable. 592 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:40,070 Hey, lie on your back. 593 00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:43,250 You're going to get real close to your mom now, okay? 594 00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:50,910 I think... I think you two are ready. 595 00:37:51,370 --> 00:37:52,610 Ready for what? 596 00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:58,430 To continue building this bond, this closeness, this supportive... 597 00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:02,370 bond that you two have been working on this whole session. I mean, I'm feeling 598 00:38:02,370 --> 00:38:03,370 pretty close. 599 00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:06,270 You're going to feel a lot closer by the time Rose is done. Come here, Rose. 600 00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:08,910 Mom, what's he doing? 601 00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:13,170 I'm not quite sure, to be honest. 602 00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:15,750 Oh, my God. 603 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:29,790 Okay. 604 00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:37,490 Um... A lot of activities going on 605 00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:42,150 with our mouths today that I was not expecting. 606 00:38:42,590 --> 00:38:44,370 I thought we were just going to talk. Yeah. 607 00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:50,850 Like I said, there's... Oh my god. 608 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:58,370 Are you going to have sex with... In front of my mom? 609 00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:02,070 I don't want you to think of it, ladies, as having sex. I want you to think of it 610 00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:05,470 more as building that bridge. We're getting closer to one another, okay? 611 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:08,610 And I don't think we can get there without this. 612 00:39:09,350 --> 00:39:11,110 So... Oh, my God. 613 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:15,010 If you don't mind, just let me work my magic. 614 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:22,170 Oh, there you go. There you go. 615 00:39:22,830 --> 00:39:26,090 I'm sure your mother would just like to really feel liberated. 616 00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:27,850 Oh, my God. 617 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,040 I'm just not quite sure about all of this. Okay. 618 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560 It's okay, ladies. You're doing great. 619 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,300 You really are. I'm really proud of both of you. 620 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:43,720 Thanks. 621 00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:18,340 Is this what you like to do, Rose? 622 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,000 No, this is what you brought me here. 623 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:23,260 This was your idea, Mom. 624 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,640 I know, but I didn't know this was going to be going on here. 625 00:40:27,020 --> 00:40:28,380 You didn't read the reviews? 626 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,240 No one said anything about this, just that there was high success rates. 627 00:40:34,830 --> 00:40:37,950 Ladies, that's part of that whole doctor-patient confidentiality agreement 628 00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:39,990 I spoke about earlier. 629 00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:43,230 No one needs to know what happens here, okay? 630 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:46,690 You didn't say we were going to have sex with each other. 631 00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:51,230 Oh, you keep using that word like it's something dirty. 632 00:40:51,610 --> 00:40:53,330 I can't help but feel. 633 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:04,720 There you go, you keep it up. 634 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,800 Come on, keep going. Are you okay? 635 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:11,860 I don't even know what's happening anymore, to be honest. 636 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,160 It's very confusing. 637 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:15,820 Yeah. 638 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,100 I feel bad just watching them. 639 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:27,160 Oh, you know, I kind of feel bad a little bit too. You know, that being 640 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,840 said, will you stand up, Rose? 641 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,520 There you go. 642 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,900 Mom, you come right to me. 643 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,120 Rose, you come over here. 644 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,840 Oh my God. 645 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,820 You can sit right on your mother's face now. 646 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:50,140 There you go. You want me to sit on my mother's face? Yes, I want you to return 647 00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:51,140 the favor. 648 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,620 There you go, sweetie. 649 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,360 I mean, I most certainly have never done... 650 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,600 This. 651 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,160 And I've never had sex with anyone but your father. 652 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:11,740 I'm not quite sure I even know what to do here, Rose. 653 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:17,020 Oh my god, I'm... 654 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:21,600 I'm watching the therapist penetrate my mom. 655 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:33,000 Is this okay, bros? 656 00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:34,820 This is okay. 657 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,420 Are you okay? 658 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:38,740 I 659 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:57,020 feel 660 00:42:57,020 --> 00:43:00,580 like this is more deviant than anything. 661 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:03,130 ever done in my nudist community. 662 00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:06,790 Really? Oh, my God. That's great. 663 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:08,130 That's great news. 664 00:43:09,650 --> 00:43:14,350 Is it? I brought her here to get better, not worse. She thought there was a 665 00:43:14,350 --> 00:43:15,350 problem with me. 666 00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:19,030 Well, now you see there's no problem at all, right, Ann? 667 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:23,750 I don't know about that. Now look where we are. Look what we're doing. 668 00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:27,250 Leaps and bounds. 669 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,720 You're doing great, ladies. It's all about sharing today. 670 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,800 Why don't you come over here? 671 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,600 Turn now. 672 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:07,100 You know, we didn't have a 673 00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,100 problem with sharing. 674 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,560 Yeah. Well, it's more of moral support, I understand. 675 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,760 But you're morally supporting your mom, right? 676 00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:19,500 Yeah. 677 00:44:24,970 --> 00:44:25,970 What do you want me to do? 678 00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:30,210 A lick? 679 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:32,030 On you? 680 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:33,870 Oh my god. 681 00:44:35,470 --> 00:44:36,510 Oh, you're doing it? 682 00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:39,890 I don't know at this point. I don't really know what else to do. 683 00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:44,550 I just kind of want this session to be over, honestly. 684 00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:03,100 I mean, do you enjoy doing this with your other friends, at least? The ones 685 00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,120 that I want to. Yeah, I am. 686 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:11,980 I would never do this with anyone I don't want to. 687 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,440 Nudism is about respecting each other. 688 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,260 I promise we'll never come back here again, sweetie. 689 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,660 We'll just finish this session and... 690 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,660 Would you do me a favor? Would you be so kind? Mm-hmm. 691 00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:30,060 Thank you. 692 00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:36,560 You know, we'll just... You guys are connected, and then that will be it. 693 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,880 Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. 694 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,320 Oh, 695 00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:45,158 that's it. 696 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,160 That's it. 697 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,140 And you'll trust that my lifestyle is fine. 698 00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:50,660 Oh. 699 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,440 I mean, I think I'll... 700 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,740 Trust you to make what decisions you have to do for yourself. 701 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,280 I don't really know what else to do at this point. 702 00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,360 I can deal with that. 703 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,940 He's certainly enjoying himself at least. 704 00:46:37,350 --> 00:46:41,310 You've like barely want to go home with me and the first time we go out on the 705 00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:43,030 house in the years you bring me to a purpose. 706 00:46:43,810 --> 00:46:48,090 I was just trying to do the best for us. 707 00:46:48,570 --> 00:46:52,930 I didn't know what else to do. I was so afraid to lose you. 708 00:46:58,390 --> 00:47:00,130 You were never going to lose me, mom. 709 00:47:00,590 --> 00:47:02,130 Well, I felt like I was, sweetie. 710 00:47:05,710 --> 00:47:06,930 At least we're talking now. 711 00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:20,190 I've always just wanted to be open about my life with you. 712 00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:23,910 I promise I'll listen now. 713 00:47:24,110 --> 00:47:25,110 I promise. 714 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,240 Okay, I mean, how much longer does she have to do this for, really? 715 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:47,580 Oh, well, you know, it's a good point. Hey, Mom, your turn now. 716 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,840 Oh, that's not quite what I meant. Yeah, sure, no, no, it's okay. 717 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,860 You're anxious, and I understand that. I appreciate your enthusiasm. 718 00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:55,720 Okay, you hop right on, Mom. 719 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,560 Hop on? 720 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,820 There you go, there you go. 721 00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:01,380 Oh, my God. 722 00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:04,260 Come here. I want you to get a little separate, a little separate. 723 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,480 Oh, my God. 724 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,120 Here you go. 725 00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:12,870 Just move up and down like she was. 726 00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:17,230 Oh my God. 727 00:48:42,830 --> 00:48:43,830 Oh my God. 728 00:48:46,310 --> 00:48:49,350 I've certainly never experienced this before. 729 00:48:57,490 --> 00:49:00,310 I don't think I've ever experienced this before either. 730 00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:04,810 Look at us experiencing new things together, sweetie. 731 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:08,970 That is what you wanted. 732 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,020 I don't quite think it would be like this. 733 00:49:14,620 --> 00:49:17,820 Don't worry, I won't feel bad. 734 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,320 Oh my god. 735 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,260 I just feel interesting. 736 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,760 Interesting? Yeah. 737 00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:49,200 I've never felt like this before. 738 00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:55,780 Is that a good thing? I don't know. Probably not considering what we're 739 00:49:55,780 --> 00:49:56,780 doing. 740 00:49:57,300 --> 00:50:01,340 But it's not supposed to be a bad thing. I know. I'm very confused. 741 00:50:17,770 --> 00:50:22,630 I mean, he does seem to know what he's doing with this process, or whatever he 742 00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:23,630 calls it. 743 00:50:28,850 --> 00:50:31,510 He has his neck, it's down, that's for sure. 744 00:50:31,810 --> 00:50:32,810 Yeah. 745 00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:36,150 Oh my god. 746 00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:41,230 I don't think I've ever seen anyone get fucked like this before. 747 00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:53,750 Especially not your mom. 748 00:50:54,170 --> 00:50:55,170 I know. 749 00:50:55,710 --> 00:50:58,230 It's probably so confusing for you too. 750 00:51:03,550 --> 00:51:08,190 But related to the mom, like the nudist moms, you know, it's fine. 751 00:51:08,530 --> 00:51:11,090 It's just, it's just it's you. 752 00:51:11,330 --> 00:51:12,330 I know. 753 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:14,230 She was very different. 754 00:51:17,310 --> 00:51:19,770 Oh, fuck yeah. 755 00:51:39,799 --> 00:51:42,720 How long are you going to do this exercise with my mom? 756 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:46,360 Are you not anxious? 757 00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:48,180 No. 758 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,180 I'm not anxious. 759 00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:54,540 That's okay. You don't have to be shameful. I understand. 760 00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:56,500 Let me have a rose. On your side. 761 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,560 On my side? 762 00:51:58,700 --> 00:51:59,700 Mm-hmm. 763 00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:01,400 And you come right over here. 764 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,420 Do you want me to be comfortable? 765 00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:16,180 Yeah. 766 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,160 Fuck, 767 00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:32,820 it really does feel interesting. 768 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,680 Yeah, you too. 769 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:35,900 It's not just me. 770 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,740 It makes me feel a little better. 771 00:52:51,089 --> 00:52:53,270 I think you're doing a great job, sweetie. 772 00:52:53,810 --> 00:52:54,810 You're both doing wonderful. 773 00:52:55,230 --> 00:52:56,230 No. 774 00:52:57,230 --> 00:52:58,230 Thanks, Mom. 775 00:53:22,830 --> 00:53:23,910 He wants to be closer together. 776 00:53:24,210 --> 00:53:29,890 We are closer together now, that is for sure. 777 00:53:31,950 --> 00:53:34,550 You two being separate all the time, we're done. 778 00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:43,370 I think we should probably not tell your dad about this session. 779 00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:44,650 Definitely not. 780 00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:49,510 I always tell him everything, but I don't think this. 781 00:53:51,050 --> 00:53:52,870 No, we can't. No, there's no way. 782 00:53:57,430 --> 00:54:01,090 That would be so mad we both did this. 783 00:54:01,630 --> 00:54:03,870 Yeah. I don't think you'd be very happy. 784 00:54:07,610 --> 00:54:08,790 I did that. 785 00:54:10,170 --> 00:54:14,130 It feels really different. 786 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:16,550 Oh, my God, yeah. 787 00:54:17,090 --> 00:54:18,230 Oh, my God. 788 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,560 Is it different? 789 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,760 Yeah. Really? 790 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,360 Yes. 791 00:54:39,740 --> 00:54:42,060 Is this okay? Yeah. 792 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,840 Kind of feels good, if I'm honest. 793 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,200 Oh my god, I don't think it ever resets and it feels good. 794 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,220 Maybe we did come a bit far today. 795 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,720 Mom, why is he sucking on my toes? 796 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,360 It must be part of the process. 797 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,120 I don't really know. 798 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,880 Fuck, it tickles. 799 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,040 Does it? Yeah. 800 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,060 That makes sense. 801 00:55:42,060 --> 00:55:45,140 Yeah, this session has to be close to over. I mean, me and my mom are clearly 802 00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:46,960 closer than we've ever been. Yeah. 803 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,560 Lots of ways. 804 00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:51,520 I'm lying in a lap. 805 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,120 And that being said, why don't you, I just want you to nail down right here. 806 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,980 Is this the last exercise? 807 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,480 It is. 808 00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:31,740 It has to be. 809 00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:35,220 You and your mom are going to share something very special, okay? 810 00:56:35,980 --> 00:56:38,740 I mean, what more could we possibly share? 811 00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:41,880 I'll show you in just a minute. 812 00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:46,380 Do you know what he's talking about, sweetie? I thought this was already the 813 00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:47,700 most special thing we could share. 814 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:55,320 I don't know what else there would be for us to learn. 815 00:56:55,540 --> 00:56:56,540 I know. 816 00:56:58,190 --> 00:57:01,550 I mean, I get it now. I'm gonna, like you said, support your decisions. 817 00:57:01,950 --> 00:57:02,950 You're an adult. 818 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:09,750 You hear that, doctor? We, you know. We're on the same page. I think we've 819 00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:11,730 met our goals for the day. It's actual. 820 00:57:12,790 --> 00:57:13,790 It's true, ladies. 821 00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:15,030 Yeah. 822 00:57:19,610 --> 00:57:20,610 I think so. 823 00:57:22,250 --> 00:57:24,030 I've never had my mom support like this. 824 00:57:24,350 --> 00:57:25,350 Yeah. 825 00:57:44,250 --> 00:57:45,530 I think we get it. 826 00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:52,010 Come on, dad. 827 00:57:52,170 --> 00:57:53,170 Come on, dad. 828 00:57:53,350 --> 00:57:54,350 Are you done? 829 00:57:57,390 --> 00:57:58,390 Okay, ladies. 830 00:58:00,710 --> 00:58:02,150 Are you going to call my mom? 831 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,120 I want you to share it with Rose. 832 00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:16,980 Come on Rose. 833 00:58:17,660 --> 00:58:18,660 Come on, it's very important. 834 00:58:20,420 --> 00:58:21,420 There you go. 835 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,920 That's it. 836 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:36,620 Wonderful job, ladies. 837 00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:37,660 Congratulations. 838 00:58:38,020 --> 00:58:39,020 How does that feel? 839 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,060 Do you feel like you've made a breakthrough today? 840 00:58:45,020 --> 00:58:48,940 Do you feel closer? Do you feel like you understand where your daughter's coming 841 00:58:48,940 --> 00:58:49,940 from now? 842 00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:54,980 Yeah, I think I definitely gained a lot of understanding today. 843 00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:57,220 It's liberating, right? Being naked, being nude. 844 00:58:57,900 --> 00:58:58,900 Yeah. 845 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,780 Excellent. Excellent. Well, I'm glad to hear you say that. 846 00:59:02,259 --> 00:59:05,340 That being said, ladies, our session has come to an end, unfortunately. 847 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:09,400 Okay. I'll get you something to clean up with, and be sure to see the 848 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,180 receptionist on the way out and make an appointment for next week, okay? Okay. 849 00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:16,160 Don't think of me doing that, but thank you so much. 850 00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:17,860 Suit yourselves, ladies.